taming a sub's unconscious mind

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I've been training & playing with an online sub (female) since early October of last year. Since we live thousands of miles apart, we're limited to online interactions only.

In those four-plus months we have, by mutual consent, focused heavily on orgasm denial for her coupled with sometimes prolific edging.

For quite a while I didn't place any restrictions on how much she could edge. But that changed when I found out she was edging more or less constantly in her free time. I decided to pull her back a bit, and finally decided to cut her off sex altogether for a week – no masturbating at all, no using her sex toys, no looking at porn, no morning mantra. Nothing sexual at all.

Just in the last few weeks we've run into something I've never encountered before. She's begun having vivid sex dreams in which she approaches & even achieves orgasm. She wakes up soaking wet from these dreams & can remember them clearly. She swears to me – and I believe her – she isn't touching herself in her sleep. She's been quick to let me know when she has one of these dreams.

On the plus side, most of her dreams involve sex with me, so what's not to like about that? (The remainder seem to just be about edging itself.)

But on the minus side, neither of us want her to be orgasming in her sleep. But aren't sure how to stop it.

Any thoughts or suggestions on how to train a sub's unconscious mind?
 

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But on the minus side, neither of us want her to be orgasming in her sleep. But aren't sure how to stop it.

This bothers me, who us is, you and someone else or her? If it is her then she needs more gratification then you are allowing. Her ability to fantasize and orgasm in her sleep should tell you something.
 

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Did you not understand my post? "us" = me (the Dom) + her (the sub)

Putting her on orgasm denial was a mutual decision between the two of us, so not sure why you'd be upset. And she was the one who actually brought up the possibility of making her orgasm denial permanent.

Or is the concept of orgasm denial itself too foreign to you? Some subs are into that. I want to stress again that this was a mutual decision.
 

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Risks

I realise that this is an old thread, but I am surprised that nobody has mentioned the possible risks associated with excessive edging and long term denial.

Though tease and denial is pleasing and fun and appropriate to many, it needs to be made clear that in excess it can involve certain long term risks.

Prolonged and repeated edging, especially over a period of many weeks or even months, together with orgasm denial can in some cases lead the the sub becoming unable to orgasm at all.

This state can be long term or even permanent and could require considerable counselling and therapy to reverse.

Edging is exciting and fun but should not continue without the release of orgasm for more than a week or two to avoid this possibility.

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Master_James24

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I realise that this is an old thread, but I am surprised that nobody has mentioned the possible risks associated with excessive edging and long term denial.

Though tease and denial is pleasing and fun and appropriate to many, it needs to be made clear that in excess it can involve certain long term risks.

Prolonged and repeated edging, especially over a period of many weeks or even months, together with orgasm denial can in some cases lead the the sub becoming unable to orgasm at all.

This state can be long term or even permanent and could require considerable counselling and therapy to reverse.

Edging is exciting and fun but should not continue without the release of orgasm for more than a week or two to avoid this possibility.

Ares

I couldn't agree more. I've edged and denied orgasms to all of my slaves, but I would never dream of prolonging it to this level. Therapy can be required to reverse the damage from everything I've read, and so I've been careful with this
 

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